Chris Stirewalt, digital politics editor at Fox News, and Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, reviewed the good, the bad, and the ugly of last night’s first presidential debate between Trump and Clinton.

Stirewalt said in defense of Lester Holt’s questions, character and fitness are part of the discussion. “Once we get pass the basic world view questions, I care very little about specific policy provision that politicians have because they lie and then they always change their minds and do the opposite,” he said.

Kristol said he is surprised that Hillary Clinton isn’t doing better than she is. “She’s clunky, she has these bad, pre-planned little attack lines,” he said. “Which you would think the Democrats have some intelligent speech writers and people working for them… they could come up with something better than ‘Trumped up trickle down,'” he said.