Mike Needham, chief executive officer of Heritage Action for America, joined Ben Domenech on Federalist Radio to discuss the future of conservatism and the ways in which Trump has inserted himself between the Republican Establishment and the conservative base.

The 2012 Republican Party platform has been largely ignored this election cycle, but Needham said the problem is not with the platform itself. “The 2012 Republican Party platform is a pretty awesome document of all the things that unite us as republicans…the question is, do you follow through on it?” Needham said.

Needham explained how if conservatism is really about limiting government, it can’t be under a party with the same incentives as the democratic party. “We need to go back to that type of aspirational, ideological type of party if conservatism is going to win or achieve it’s objectives, and away from this patronage party that I think we’ve become.”

Later in the hour, Domenech and Needham discuss what a Trump presidency might look like and how it effects conservatism. “I have no doubt that there is a big bloated highway bill waiting on the agenda of a Donald Trump who wants to build big infrastructure projects,” Needham said.